Thursday, September 3, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0224 -- Post-Apocalyptic Interaction Satchel

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Listener Interaction Satchel to close out the summer.  Interactions include nostalgia and Future World, EGOT touring plan, industry restaurant rankings, no expiration options, long travel times, ranking ideas, The Middle Class and the cost of a vacation, the Boardwalk, why the Little Prince Hates Our Favorite Marylander, Olive Garden (yuck), World Showcase entertainment, when to play John Law, and the most that we would pay for a deluxe resort.  We also have details on how you can win a CLASS HAT.

ACSI restaurant survey results are here.

Article on Marvel movies is here.

Thanks to everyone who helped make the show better this week!



















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Thursday, August 27, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0223 -- Value of the Disney Hollywood Studios and Annual Passes

This week we are joined by James Rosemergy to discuss a few of his recent blogs for  First up, we discuss the current state of Disney's Hollywood Studios and what value it may offer to visitors.  We also discuss our thoughts on the value of an annual pass and how we decide whether or not to take the plunge.  The show closes out with a game of the Price is Guessed.

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Thursday, August 20, 2015

Thursday, August 13, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0221 -- Ken Storey, D23 and ADRs

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Ken Storey joins the show this week to talk Orlando attractions.  We discuss I-Drive 360, FunSpot, GatorLand, Kennedy Space Center and more.  Ken also has a chat with Russ Lipton.  Russ and Dutch also discuss what they're expecting at D23 and some discussion on ADR services.

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Thursday, August 6, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0220 -- GALLIMAUFRY and ClassHat

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GALLIMAUFRY! This Summertime GALLIMAUFRY includes discussions of Universal and WWWD, when we feel "there," traveling with 2-year-old, frightening small children, and Outback Steakhouse.  GALLIMAUFRY contributors this week are Derry, Keith, Cassie, and Matt "HouserPain" Houser.  You can also buy this classy hat

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Thursday, July 30, 2015

Thursday, July 23, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0218 -- Summer Satchel

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Topics include Disneyland, planning spreadsheets, Ooey Gooey Toffee Cake, carrot cake, THE MIDDLE CLASS, future rankings, Ultimate Insider's Guide to Disney,  is Epcot a terrible tourist trap, podcasts and exercise, hiring a personal guide in the parks, our archives, Hooters, and France.

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Thursday, July 16, 2015

GUEST POST: Disney's Family Magic Tour Report

Note from Dutch:  The below post is from Brian Perkins (@wdwpodreview).  Thanks to Brian for the detailed write-up and taking the time to share.  There were pictures with this originally, but I did not include them here.
As I was searching for value in a mid-round selection during the Fall 2014 MMOM Draft, I came across the Family Magic Tour at the Magic Kingdom.  At first glance it seemed that this was a cheap option of a tour that really wouldn’t have much to it and really would just eat time from a touring plan.  But as I looked closer I noticed that it had some perks to it and not only did I draft it, but I booked it for my trip in May 2015.  Let me tell you how it played out.
I booked Disney’s Family Magic Tour for Friday May 22nd, long before I was paying enough attention to realize that it would be the 24 hour day.  That proved to have an impact, positive and negative as it played out.  The tour costs $34 per person, and with a Disney Visa cardholder benefit of 15% off I paid $28.90 per person for our family of 4, my wife and I with our 6 & 8 year old sons.  The tour starts at 10:00am and you are asked to arrive at the Chamber of Commerce no later than 9:45.  As you arrive, you are greeted by a Cast Member who has Peter Pan themed nametags prepared for you to identify that you are part of the tour.  You are also offered a bottle of cold water for each member of your party.  It is not exclusive to just your family, but the number of participants is limited.  I am not sure what that number is, but I can say that there were no more than 20 people in our group.  The tour leader arrives promptly at 10:00am and your journey begins. I am going to try to keep the review somewhat spoiler free, in case anyone looks to do it at some point in the future.
The premise is this… She had a tour all planned out to go count trash cans and ducks, but Donald Duck has changed that by hiding clues all over the Magic Kingdom and Mickey wants you to find them and solve the puzzle.  So, beginning from the very front of the park, the clues begin to send you down Main Street USA and then out to the lands of the Magic Kingdom as you look for things like Bolt’s carrot toy, Rapunzel’s frying pan, and Tiana’s restaurant keys.  Even the adults had some fun as we tried to recognize which part of the park the rhyming riddle is referring to.  At some stops there is more of a challenge involved as the kids may have to put together a puzzle after finding the clue they were looking for.  The journey does lead you to a few things that add value to it.  You are told when you are booking the tour that the experience may vary and none of these are guaranteed.  However, the typical tour involves a meet & greet with Peter Pan and a ride on Winnie the Pooh using the FastPass queue, before eventually ending with a Mickey Mouse meet & greet in Town Square.  The whole experience takes right around 2 hours.
Our tour played out slightly different from the standard due to the 24 hour day.  The guide was making a point to mention that this was special for the 24 hour event, which did make my boys at least feel a little more special.  Also, due to the parade having an additional performance at noon, two things happened.  First the negative, there was no Peter Pan at the location where we were supposed to meet him.  I am assuming that this was because he was getting ready to be in the parade.  The positive though was that we completed the tour and came out into Town Square right as the parade was coming off of Main Street and into the circle.  Admittedly, most of that was luck, but it still played out pretty cool as we watched the parade from in front of Tony’s.
My family definitely enjoyed the tour and I feel that it did have value for the cost.  However, that value may be relative.  What is the value of adding additional FastPasses to your plan?  Basically we got two additional FastPasses, one for riding Winnie the Pooh, and one for meeting Mickey.  The Peter Pan meet and greet would definitely save time in line compared to what you may normally spend waiting to meet him.  Comparing these experiences singularly to their counterparts outside of the tour seems like an immediate time savings, but you lose some of that as you complete the other tasks in the tour.  Even that may balance out though.  Let’s assume that Pooh and Mickey would each likely have at least a 30 minute standby time, and you could spend close to that waiting to meet Peter Pan.  In the long run you may be adding a half hour to your plan, but gaining the experience of the tour and the memories that are made during it.  And don’t forget that free bottle of Dasani, which saved you some cash.  The repeatability of this tour may be in question.  The value of the FastPasses would still be there, but losing the anticipation of what was going to happen next would probably decrease some of the overall entertainment value.
Overall in my opinion, the tour was very fun. The kids, and adults who don’t obsess about the parks, got to learn little tidbits about the park while having some fun and getting a unique experience.  You also get that cool feeling of being part of a tour and having people stare at you while you get that preferred access to a ride and peek into spaces that they thought guests weren’t allowed in.  Whereas I have wondered if some of the behind the scenes type tours may spoil the magic of the parks, this one definitely adds to it. 

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0217 -- Newz and Listeners

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This week, MMOM get caught up on news items such as Disney Hollywood Studios rumors, changes to the Disney Dining Plan, and the Message Board Outrage of the Week.  Also, lots of great notes from the Listener Interaction Satchel.

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Thursday, July 9, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0216 -- Old School

This week we discuss what an old school trip through Walt Disney World would look like by creating an artisinal touring plan.  Howie sits down and bares his soul with Russ Lipton.  We'd also really appreciate you taking Kivus' survey about a meetup.

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Thursday, July 2, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0215 -- We are all Howie from Maryland

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Dutch talks about meeting his favorite face character and what a MMOM meet-and-greet would look like.  You can even take a survey to help us find a date by clicking here.   The Listener Interaction Satchel includes discussion on easyWDW inspired message board outrage, transportation at the Swalphin, Disneyland and FP+, dining draft, crazy alcohol abuse at Bay Lake, the attractions Epcot needs, restaurant improvements, saving the America pavillion, opulence, BIG GROUPS, HuffPo love for Disney, AP Magic Bands, and campsites revisited.

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Thursday, June 25, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0214 -- Newz, Dessert Draft and Not a Trip Report

We haven't recorded in a while, so we decide to catch up on news.  Newz Bitez on extra magic hour changes maybe coming to Walt Disney World, Frozen Ever After, poop, more bad advice and Message Board Outrage of the Week.  The team also draft desserts on property.  The show closes with some thoughts Dutch has from his trip.

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Thursday, June 18, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0213 -- WDW Happy Place

This week we are joined by Sam and Ashley of WDW Happy Place Podcast and the Earvengers to catch up.  They answer The Questionnaire, talk about Transformation Thursday, and Disney Fandom generally. They also challenge Kip to a game.

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Thursday, June 11, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0212 -- Tiers, July, Chains Again and DRAFT WINNER

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This week's discussion starts with the potential of tiered pricing for the WDW parks.  Dutch also shares some stolen moments he'll be getting in Walt Disney World come July.  Brian reveals the winner of the Spring 2015 Draft.  The final discussion is a follow up on chain restaurants with listener feedback.

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Mrs. Litem's Superlative -- 2015 Spring Draft

“Trip most likely to land Mrs. Litem in Jail”  - Houser Pain
Mrs. Litem is a HUGE animal lover, especially Giraffes.  The only reason she hasn’t gotten escorted out of Animal Kingdom for trying to hug a Giraffe yet, is the watchful eye of the Safari drive.  She was so excited to see Kidani Village as the hotel choice by Houser Pain.  It would be a dream to stay there.  It’s somewhat likely though it might end in an attempt to sneak off the balcony to hug a giraffe. 

“Trip most likely to bring a tear (in a good way)”  - Jen’s Sparklers (Jen)
 When we see little Miss Litem’s face when she meets Anna, Elsa and Tinkerbell and the little big guy’s face when he meets Pooh and the Disney Junior Pals, there are sure to be some water works.

Trip most likely to end in a Dance party”  Poo Stuffed French Toast (Howie B.)
Little Miss Litem just loves Dream Along with Mickey and always dances a long and shouts Dreams Come True!  Mr & Mrs Litem love having pints at Rose and Crown then going to dance with the British Revolution.  This trip would get us all dancing.

Trip most likely to mean Mr. Litem will be forced to wear a sweater”  - Mrs. Litem was really excited to see the Holiday Sleigh ride and Norway at the Holidays….but you can’t do a picture perfect family sleigh ride without some crazy holiday sweaters so sorry Mr. Litem.

“Trip most likely to be reenacted at home”  -Aloha Aisle Orange Birds (Tim B.)
Little Miss Litem  would surely love all the special experiences Aloha Aisle Orange Birds put together.  We know we’d be having many princess tea parties and Jedi light saber fights at home for a long time to come after this trip. 

Thursday, June 4, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0211 -- Edutainment and Commissioner Us

A recent episode of Radio Harambe asked the question of how much of Epcot, and WDW generally, is educational.  We try to answer that this week.  We also discuss what we would do if we were Park Commissioners.  Hint: We're better than Goodell.

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Thursday, May 28, 2015

2015 Spring Draft -- Team by team

 Team breakdowns after the jump....

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0210 -- Shams, Chain Restaurants and Listeners

An ethical question about booking a campsite at Fort Wilderness.  Dutch also shares his chain restaurant power rankings.  The Listener Interaction Satchel has thoughts on the show and its community, the Boathouse, Annual Passes and the limits on booking FastPass Plus, Lou, movies, Cracker Barrel, and extinct attractions.

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Dutch's Chain Restaurant Power Rankings

PF Chang’s
Cheesecake Factory
Red Lobster
Smokey Bones
Bucca di Peppo
Cheeseburger in Paradise
Cracker Barrel
Rainforest Café
Ruby Tuesday
East Side Mario’s
Johnny Rockets
Long Horn
Lone Star
Dave and Buster’s
Planet Hollywood
TGI Friday’s
Macaroni Grill
Bob Evans
Ground Round
On the Border
Olive Garden

Sunday, May 24, 2015

2015 Spring Attraction Draft

Thursday, May 21, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0209 -- Russ is back and Alone in the World

Looking through the prism of Russ' trip to Disneyland, the team discusses surprises, missing old friends, and ticket prices.  MMOM also discus Alone in the Disney World.  3 Good Minutes on Derek and Lou, improving the show, and the Fourth of July.

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Friday, May 15, 2015

2015 Spring Draft Order

James R.
Pretty Fly for a Jedi
Friend-Kip Boats
David MullaneYMagic+
Team Ken
Scott S.
A Shaw World After All
Matt H.
Houser Pain
It Doesn’t Matterhorn
Aloha Aisle Orangebirds
Kivus and Butthead
@elyssashark @kivus
Jeff Williams Drafting Experience
Epic Stunt Princess
Primeval Russ
Making of Monroe
New Jen
Jen’s Sparklers
Poo Stuffed French Toasts

Thursday, May 14, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0208 -- Newz, Restaurant Draft and Lightem

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This week the team helps solve a marital dispute about restaurants.  Also, we follow up with Brian on the draft.  Newz Bitez: pre-ordering food at Disney Hollywood Studios, the robot death of humanity, Morimoto at Disney Springs, Disney's Q2, and Uni Corner. 

Lightem and Hide Podcast

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Thursday, May 7, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0207 -- What we'll miss when it's gone and Listener Interacton Satchel

This week on the show, MMOM examines what Dutch should maybe say "goodbye" to, just in case, when he goes down to Walt Disney World in June.  They also answer a wide variety of WDW questions, including resort specific merchandise, Tesla and monorail expansion, spam, Octonauts, chain restaurants again, what would we bring from New England to Disney World, getting kids familiar with characters, Disney Dining Buddy, and more.

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Thursday, April 30, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0206 -- Attraction Draft, Saving Cash and Listeners

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This week the team is joined by Brian (@ligthemandhyde) to discuss the MMOM Spring Attraction Draft.  We also prime the pump on Project 103 Ways and talk about how to save money on a Disney vacation.  We close out with the Listener Interaction Satchel.

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Thursday, April 23, 2015

Thursday, April 16, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0204 -- Off-Site Hotels

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This week MMOM is joined by Howie to talk about lodging.  Howie thinks Dutch is all wrong on hotels and tries to convince the team that off-site hotels aren't hot garbage.  Howie shares some of his favorite properties, methods for finding a spot and traps to avoid.

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Thursday, April 9, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0203 -- Value of Breakfast and DisneyBounding

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This week the team welcomes John and Elyssa Kivus to discuss two topics.  First, John shares his study of the value of character meals, including this article by Brian McNichols and an old episode of our show.  We also discuss a wonderful review of Be Our Guest breakfast by Josh of easyWDW. In our second topic, Elyssa explains to us what DisneyBounding is. 

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Thursday, April 2, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0202 -- Save Tomorrowland!

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This week the Mighty Men of Mouse are joined by Wes James, an architect and author of Save Tomorrowland! at  Wes can be found on Twitter here.

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Thursday, March 26, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0201 -- Wait Times, News Bites and The Park Blogger Podcast

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Starting the next 200 episodes off with a jam-packed show.  The show starts off with Dutch sharing some stolen moments he was able to snag in Walt Disney World last week.  Russ also shares some Newz Bitez.  News items include the Aloha Isle-Sunshine Tree Terrace swap, news about a new restaurant in Adventure Land, updates at Under the Sea, and the closure of Innonventions West.  Russ and Dutch also do a draft about wait times. The show closes with a discussion with The Park Blogger Podcast crew in response to Josh's Universal review.

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Thursday, March 19, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 200

We have done 199 of these shows before this one. We celebrate with lists, a look back and Russ Lipton.

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Thursday, March 12, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0199 -- Top Six at WDW and Listener Interaction Satchel

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Derek Burgan's Top Six Attractions at Walt Disney World is live and we have the results.  Using the magic of pivot tables, we crunch the numbers on what the experts say is the very best that WDW has to offer.  The Listener Interaction Satchel is teeming with great questions, including food at Disney Hollywood Studios, Disneyland's 60th Anniversary, Spaceship Earth merchandise, Tim Horton's coming to Epcot's Canada Pavilion, a WDW loyalty program, zombies, Walt Disney World breastaraunt opportunities, and Avatar hubris.  We also give 3 Good Minutes and relaxing and another on Big Daddy Mongello.

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Thursday, March 5, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0198 -- Listener Interaction Satchel and Universal Review

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The Listener Interaction Satchel is teeming with great feedback this week. We talk Gary Sinese and Mission: Space, John and Elyssa's Top Six WDW Attractions, Star Tours 2.0, how Walt Disney World treats customers at the Grand Floridian versus how they do business at the Waldorf, Comcast acting like Comcast, whether we like surprises, scrapping FastPass Plus, how we'd change WDW ticket prices, revamping a resort restaurant, and team nicknames.  Josh also joins us to talk his day at Universal and share a song at the very end of the episode.  We've also got a great crop of listener voice mails.

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Thursday, February 26, 2015

Mighty Men of Mouse: Episode 0197 -- Kids are overrated

Russ shares an article this week about how wrong it is to go to Walt Disney World with your kids.  Dutch and Kip rant like lunatics.  News Bites include banned substances, mugs, a different twist on three Disney Parks in one day, arcades, and Walt Disney World ticket scams.

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Thursday, February 19, 2015

Episode 196 -- End of the World Gallimaufry

Give our new LISTENER LINE a call:

Gallimaufry!  Gallimaufry includes the next 10 years of theme parks, including Walt Disney World, replacement level meals at WDW, sophistry, a WDW rewards program, and the zombie apocalypse at WDW.

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Wednesday, February 11, 2015

Episode 195 -- Safari Mike

Give our new LISTENER LINE a call:

Safari Mike of Radio Harambe and the Jambo Everyone blog joins the Mighty Men of Mouse this week to discuss some things that they wish would come to Walt Disney World.  Safari Mike steps Inside the Tourist's Studio to discuss whether Disney's Animal Kingdom is a half-day park, lawyers as WDW fanboys, Pizzafari, and the Wanamaya Safari.

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Radio Harambe Podcast
Jambo Everyone website

Wednesday, February 4, 2015

Episode 194 -- Top 6 Walt Disney World Attractions and Cruisin 4 Life

Different type of show this week.  The first topic is a discussion of the Top Six Attractions at Walt Disney World for Friend of the Show DEREK BURGAN.  The second topic is discussion on article about a woman who wants to spend the rest of her life cruising.  We ask ourselves how much it would cost and if we even would want to do it.

Also, give our new LISTENER LINE to call into:

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Thursday, January 29, 2015

Episode 193 -- New Year's Gallimaufry

Gallimaufry! Gallimaufry discussions include the decision to go when a pregnancy may happen, tech ideas, Groundhog Day in Walt Disney World.  News Bites include quick discussion on DVC prices, slashing of WDW Annual pass discounts, pirates of the Caribbean, Disney Springs' lineup, George Lucas' story ideas, and Starbucks mugs.

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Thursday, January 22, 2015

Episode 192 -- 2015 Attraction Royal Rumble

It's time to rumble.  It's time for the Walt Disney World Attraction Royal Rumble.  The Royal Rumble features old attractions and your current favorites.  The 2015 version showcases 15 attractions that weren't in the inaugural rumble!  Go over the top!

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Thursday, January 15, 2015

Episode 191 -- Is nothing sacred?

With recent news in Walt Disney World, it's time to consider what makes WDW what it is.  This week's topic is about what is sacred, if anything actually is.  The Listener Interaction Satchel contains responses to Burgan-a-mania, If I ran the zoo, Russ rants, Die Hard in the Great Movie Ride, and Easter brunch ideas. 

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Thursday, January 8, 2015

Episode 190 -- NOT Horcruxes

The Listener Interaction Satchel includes questions on what to do if Avatarland dies, Disney's allures, Epcot drinking teams, and more on hotels.  There was to be a topic about Horcruxes, but someone whose name rhymes with Dip Flingfield muted his mic.  On the brightside, Dutch announces the winner and medalists for the Fall 2014 MMOM Draft.

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Wednesday, December 31, 2014

Episode 189 -- DRAFTACULAR!

This week Team MMOM talks to the combatants of the Fall 2014 Draft. 

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Kivus and Butthead
Experiment 627

Frozenstrom (part 1)
Journey into Refrigeration with Elsa

Other Fun Linkage

Kivus blog on character dining
Kivus and Camera
Wes James' Save Tomorrowland!
The Park Blogger Podcast
Jambo Everyone Blog
Radio Harambe
Orlando Tourism Report
Tim Brooks'

MMOM Fall 2014 Draft -- Team by Team

Click the link below to see what each team drafted!

Thursday, December 25, 2014

Episode 188 -- Festivooned Interaction Satchel

The Listener Interaction Satchel is bursting, so the team is going to answer some questions from some listeners on stuff like what properties we want to see in Walt Disney World, drinking during the show, feats of strengths, a live call in show, Disneyland, and more.

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Thursday, December 18, 2014

Episode 187 -- News Gallimaufry

NEWS GALLIMAUFRY! The New Wheel Gallimaufry turns on character meals, Disney's fault for an injury, voluntary wheel chair use, child meltdowns, Jim Hill rumors, and the value of being a celebrity.

Episode 187

Thursday, December 11, 2014


This week the team is joined by Capitain Universal, Derek Burgan, to discuss whether or not there is enough for families to enjoy at Univseral Orlando.  Derek is also interrogated by the indefatigable Russ Lipton about his favorite tastes, what he is most proud of, and the wild frontiers of food classification. The final segment is a discussion on bars in WDW and Universal.  This much fun should not be free.

Derek's blogs at

Pardon the Pixie Dust

E-Ticket Report

Dutch's favorite drink of the 25 drinks of Christmas

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Thursday, December 4, 2014

Episode 185 -- Hotel Discussion

This week's topic focuses on the arrival of a 5th diamond to Walt Disney World property.  Joined by John Kivus, the discussion focuses on what goes into a 5 diamond resort, our experiences with them elsewhere, the concept of luxury and why Disney doesn't do one themselves.  John also challenges Kip to Friday Night's Alright and we are joined by Russell James Lipton Shuttlesworth.

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Kivus and Camera

Thursday, November 27, 2014

Episode 184 -- Thanksgiving and Black Friday

In an abbreviated show this week, the guys talk a little about Thanksgiving.  They also share their annual Christmas gift idea run down.  Happy Thanksgiving to all.

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Thursday, November 20, 2014

Episode 183 -- Listener Interaction Satchel Fiesta

Guests and gallimaufrys mean that we fell behind on listener questions so we decided to catch up quick with a Listener Interaction Satchel Fiesta blow off.  Topics include corporate's feeling towards Epcot, Poly construction, hairy legs, lax bros and too many drunks at Food and Wine Festival, FastPass + trials, Once Upon a Time, DVC supply and demand, the Dark Side of Disney trailer, the Ultimate Magic Kingdom Touring Plan, trade ideas, and 1%ers.

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Dark Side of Disney trailer

Thursday, November 13, 2014

BIG BOARD for Fall 2014 Draft

BIG BOARD after the jump....

Combatant's motion to change team name and add an indispensable party


John Kivus ("John"), owner of team "Kivusmanjaro Safari" ("Team")
respectfully moves to rename the Team as follows:

1. John is a super huge fan of Mighty Men of Mouse. Upon hearing of the
Mighty Men of Mouse 2014 Attraction Draft ("Draft"), John
enthusiastically emailed the Commissioner requesting to join the Draft.

2. Upon hearing about the Draft, Elyssa Kivus ("Elyssa"), John's wife,
suggested that a husband and wife team by the name of "Kivus and
Butthead" ("Super Awesome Team Name") would be the "cat's pajamas" (NOT

3. John rejected Elyssa's suggestion of the Super Awesome Team Name
without consulting with the Commissioner as to the Draft rules related
to husband and wife teams.

4. John's conduct is an example of excusable neglect.

5. Other teams in the Draft currently have husband and wife owners.

6. The second round of the Draft has not yet completed.

7. This motion is not being made for unnecessary delay or to confuse
other league participants.

WHEREFORE, John respectfully moves that the Commissioner:

(i) Update the name of the Team to be "Kivus & Butthead"; and

(ii) As the Commissioner deems appropriate, address any correspondence
related to the Draft via email and twitter to both John (@kivus, and Elyssa (@elyssashark,

John Kivus
MMoM Fan Number 1326


This matter having come before the Commissioner, the Commissioner having
read and considered the motion, and it appearing based on said motion
and other matters before the Commissioner that good cause exists for
granting the motion, it is hereby ORDERED that (i) the team currently
known as "Kivusmanjaro Safari" shall henceforth be known as "Kivus &
Butthead" and (ii) as Commissioner deems appropriate, any email or
twitter correspondence related to the Mighty Men of Mouse 2014
Attraction Draft shall be addressed to both John (@kivus, and Elyssa (@elyssashark,

The Less than Honorable, Dutch Lombrowski

Episode 182 -- Flying Brian!

We are joined this week by Brian McNichols of Pardon the Pixie Dust,, Brooklyn's Finest, and author of the Walt Disney World Bar and Lounge eGuide.  Topics include James Russell Lipton Shuttlesworth, bars, Level/Keep/More and the MMOM draft.

Buy the Walt Disney World Bars and Lounges eGuide
Read Brian on Brooklyn's Finest

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Yet More Dutch Rulings

1. With the Wild Africa Trek - what do I get? Its on the safari but a different experience and different ride vechiles or do I just get the walk thru part? Also, they give you lunch, is it a lunch?

DUTCH RULING: You get the whole thing, including the snacks. It doesn't count as a meal. 

2. What about the Sunrise safari - also goes thru the safari but a different experience, its not just a rehash of the ride. Also, half of it is a major breakfast buffet, is this a "meal"?

DUTCH RULING: Since it uses the same vehicle as Kilimanjaro Safari, it is not eligible at this point. 

3. Same question about the evening AKL safari - that's a full blown Jiko meal is that a dinner or experience?

DUTCH RULING: The Sunset Tour is eligible for drafting as a meal at Jiko. The vehicle is not the same as Kilimanjaro Safari, so it shouldn't be disqualified on those grounds. The safari portion of the meal can be thought of the same way as the show portion of the Hoop Dee Doo. 

4. is the Four Seasons in play?


5. does the suite in Cinderella's castle count as my hotel?


Monday, November 10, 2014

Supplemental Draft Rulings

QUERY 1:  Just as a point of clarification, it we chose the Polynesian per say, do we get it in current condition(construction walls) or a point in time (before or after construction)?

DUTCH RULING:  You can specify a point in time for a hotel.  If you opt for a particular point in time, however, you are bound to that time for all facets of your hotel stay.  For example, if you select the 1973 version of the Poly, you don't get a modern hotel room.

QUERY 2: Has there already been a ruling as draft-ability of restaurants? ADR means its draft-able? To clarify…what about The Fountain? One of the Wolf Gang puck places? 
DUTCH RULING:  Any restaurant that is within the bounds of Walt Disney World is in play, including those listed in the question.  Even the McDonald's near Animal Kingdom would be draftable.   The only caveat is that it must offer the meal your are drafting it for (i.e. you can't draft Cosmic Rays for breakfast) and it must have entrees (i.e. can't have a Dole Whip and call it lunch). 

Friday, November 7, 2014

MMOM Fall 2014 Draft Rulings Contd.

GENERAL DUTCH RULING:  The new Four Seasons is undraftable.  Ditto for Cinderella's Castle Suite. Only Disney hotels are draftable.  As a reminder the standard for a hotel is that it have its own front desk.  

QUERY 1: Quick question -- are we required to consider transit time and/or the hassle associated with choosing experiences that are geographically distant from each other?  For example, if I were to be staying at AKL, do all of my meals at EPCOT and have all of my attractions at MK, am I going to get dinged for creating an itinerary that would be a colossal pain in the ass in the real world?  Does it make any difference if the day we're constructing wouldn't actually be feasible?

DUTCH RULING:  Transit time is not a negative factor.

Per the last paragraph of the rules, a Rose and Crown ADR will not get illuminations credit. What about experiences that include attractions and meals? For example: the Fantasmic dinner package. Would that count as both the meal and an attraction? Meaning the person who picked this gets an extra pick? Would other participants be excluded from picking both the restaurant and the show?

DUTCH RULING:  The Fantasmic Dinner Package would not be eligible for drafting.

What I'm getting at is that I want to pick one of the new "Ultimate" VIP tours. These include 10+ attractions and lunch at whispering canyon. In my mind this would count as one of my attraction picks, but would also fulfill one of my meal requirements. Therefore I would potentially get an extra pick. Or would I need to take whispering canyon as one of my layer picks for it to count for my lunch that day? I do not think this should exclude others from taking any of the individual attractions.

DUTCH RULING:  All tours are draftable.  The one caveat is that any tour drafted would exclude all other draftable items.  For instance, if you drafted the Steam Train Tour, your pick would include the tour and everything that comes with it EXCEPT the actual ride on the steam train.