Thursday, August 8, 2013

Episode 116 -- L.E.N.

This week Dutch unveils a formula for calculating the cost of your time in Walt Disney World.  The Team uses the formula to discuss the value of renting a car, FastPasses, curbside check-in, and more.  Team MMOM also read two listener e-mails about the direction of the resort.  Kip has the Backpage.

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  2. Great Podcast, I love your adult conversation about my favourite place on earth. Do you have a spreadsheet we can fill out for LEN or should we create our own?

  3. Just created one. Email me at and I'll send it over to you.

  4. Gentlemen, it seems to me that the L.E.N. formula only works when traveling solo or with logical, thinking adults whom are all Disney fans, somewhat fit and mobile, interested in maximizing their vacation dollars, and not predisposed to changing plans once they are "set in stone." The L.E.N. formula does *not* work for adults traveling with children or senior citizens, whom are more likely to sleep in, move slower, and have less stamina for the long, hot Disney daze at the parks. At one point during listening to this podcast, I thought to myself, "thinking about L.E.N. every minute of every hour of every day would take all the fun and spontaneity out of the vacation." That's just my 2 cents. Otherwise, I usually like your podcasts. :)

  5. Thanks for the input, Chris. It shouldn't surprise you that I disagree. As Kip mentioned on the show, the # of hours used in the formula could be tweaked to adjust for nap time for little ones or sleep habits. (My two sleep between 3-4 hours during the day for example.) Since the formula is extremely basic, I think that it's pretty maleable.

    I do agree that it could be daunting to think about time in the value of every second in the parks while you're in the World. Imagine being those folks stuck on the monorail this week and knowing that the time lost would cost you $X. Probably not good for your anxiety. In that sense, L.E.N. is more of a blunt instrument than a scalpel.

    I do think that it could be very helpful for figuring out the utility of a rental car, laundry service or any number decisions that you need to make before your trip. Either way, I love that you took the time to respond thoughtfully to the episode. Thank you for listening and getting involved.

    1. Hey Dutch! The great thing about Disney is that we can agree to disagree, and it's OK. There are so many different types of people visiting Disney for different reasons (and with so many different levels of expectations of the visit) that it's inevitable. In fact, the one thing that I can count on when listening to the MMOM podcast is that you, Russ, and Kip will present 2 or 3 different points-of-view, and at least one of you seems to disagree with the other two on most topics.

      I'm considering calculating the L.E.N. for my upcoming family visit to WDW, but I'm wondering if I really want to know it. Could it be $100+ per hour? Eeek! :) I may email you for that spreadsheet, if you don't mind.

  6. Just drop a line at and I can send it to you. I also added a third sheet to customize the number of hours that you are active on whole days.